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The Scientific Organization: Organizing U.S. Climate Modeling (2)
Posted by: Dr. Ricky Rood, 04:29 PM GMT on Juni 15, 2011 +4
The Scientific Organization: Organizing U.S. Climate Modeling (2)

There are a few open themes in these blog posts that need attention – and a couple that I intend to fit together. In this entry I want to return to some of the issues raised in Something New in the Past Decade?, which looked at an old report on the organization of U.S. climate modeling and high performance computing. One motivation for returning to this old report is an ongoing panel study to write a new report about “A National Strategy for Advancing Climate Modeling.” (link)

Over the past 25 years there have been many reports written about climate and weather models (example), climate and weather observing systems (example), high performance computing (example), and how to transition efforts from research to operations (example). If you look into these reports and their conclusions a number of common themes emerge. First, the presence of these reports suggests that there is a long-held perception that U.S. activities in climate science are not as effective as they need to be or could be. The reports consistently conclude with recognition of the creativity and quality of our scientific research, followed by calls for more integration across the federal agencies. In my earlier entry I argued that anytime there is a push towards more integration of research, there is both individual and institutional resistance.

This resistance occurs for many reasons, both good and bad, both structural and cultural. I want to focus on those reasons that appeal to the sanctity of “the science.” These arguments are often based on the notion of creativity and innovation and that creativity and innovation cannot be managed. Further arguments rely on the observation that many innovations come from unexpected places, and therefore, cannot be anticipated. Therefore, the creative edge of science needs to be left unencumbered by the heavy hand of management needed to assure integration.

Another notion enters into the argument - that is to comply with the standards required to integrate component pieces into a whole hurts the integrity of “the science.” There are two lines that support this. The first line focuses on examples of when attention was directed towards, say, information systems or technology and a product of dubious scientific integrity was produced. The second line is that by the time a particular component, say the algorithm that calculates the rain from thunderstorms, is integrated into an operational weather or climate model that algorithm is no longer state-of-the art. Therefore operational or production models are always a step behind the best science.

These arguments, which have merit, serve to benefit the dominate type of scientific efforts in the U.S. These are the efforts associated with individual scientists, who focus (or reduce) their problems in such a way to isolate something specific and to determine cause and effect. This reductionist approach to investigation is central to the classic scientific method, which has proven to be a very effective method of discovery. The focus on reduction comes at the expense of the path of science that comes from – how do all of the pieces fit together? That is the integrating or unifying path of science. This unifying path requires a synthesis of knowledge. This synthesis does, in fact, lead to new discoveries because when the pieces do not fit together, then we are required to ask – why not? The synthesis of scientific knowledge is also required to, for example, forecast the weather or climate or to adapt to sea level rise.

My ultimate thesis is that a focus on integrated or unified science does not come at the expense of “the science,” and does not undermine the scientific method or the integrity of “the science.”

There are several elements of the scientific method. At the center of it all is testing and checking. In a good scientific paper, most of the text is spent describing the results and how those results were determined to be correct, or at least, convincingly defended. A scrupulous reader looks for independence in the testing and validation; that is, how is unbiased information brought into the research to evaluate the results. Then the paper is subjected to peer review, which is another form of verification. Once a paper is published, it becomes fair game for all to question, and there is, ultimately, a requirement that the result be verified by independent investigation. If the result cannot be reproduced, then there is little acceptance of the result as correct (see Wikipedia Cold Fusion).

This process of checking is ingrained into scientists, and those who develop a sustaining legacy as quality researchers are always expert on how to check results in multiple ways. It is also true that on the individual level, it is ingrained into the scientist to question the results of others. Therefore, at the level of the individual, there is a built in process that does not promote synthesis, integration, or unification. Quite the contrary, what is promoted is the creation of many high quality nuggets of knowledge. These nuggets may or may not fit together to form a consistent body of knowledge.

Returning to the beginning of this article, one message from report after report is the need for the integration of the efforts of climate science to meet the broader needs of the community. This is true for physical climate, where there is the need for integration of knowledge to provide predictive models for assessment of climate change. And, as those who decide to use the information from these models try to make decisions for their investments and their projects, there is a need for the integration of this information with many other sources of information – for example, how big does my drainage pipe need to be? How high should my levee be?

The reports call for better integration, but at the very basis of the culture of research and the use of the scientific method, we value most the rugged individualism of skepticism. How then is integration of research to address societal goals achieved?

If it were easy, if were simply a matter of making sure that all of the right pieces were built, then we would not have 25 years of reports with a cadence of “need more integration.” Perhaps the obvious answer - there needs to be a process or an organization that as a whole honors the principles of the scientific method. This requires, then, a process that builds trust among the individuals of the organization. It requires structuring of checking and validation in a form that supports the transfer of knowledge (and computer code) from one individual to another. It requires the development of validation strategies that test the combined knowledge, the combined algorithms, in a quantitative and repeatable way. This organization is far different than an organization that is comprised on many, individual, excellent scientists. Next, thinking about the scientific organization that we need.

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251. Snowlover123 09:03 PM GMT on Juni 21, 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:


Here's the text from Eurekalert:

"To reconstruct sea level, the scientists used microfossils called foraminifera preserved in sediment cores extracted from coastal salt marshes in North Carolina. The age of the cores was estimated using radiocarbon dating and other techniques. To test the validity of their approach, the team compared its reconstructions with tide-gauge measurements from North Carolina for the past 80 years, and global tide-gauge records for the past 300 years. A second reconstruction from Massachusetts confirmed their findings."

As you can plainly see, phrases such as "from Massachusetts" and "global tide-gauge records" contradict the "two stations off the coast of North Carolina" claim, so someone may want to take a different tack where that's concerned.

As to the graph you posted from the "Steven Goddard" site, it seems to be lacking context. That is, is it supposed to be showing global sea level? Hemispherical? Regional? I can only say this: there's definitely an upward trend since 1935 or so (when the chart begins)--which is right in line with the original articles findings.

The planet's warm, and getting warmer. Watts Up With That? ;-)


Okay, so they compared two stations in North Carolina to one station in Massacusetts to verify their findings... again, that can not be represented as Global data, because it is only 3 stations near the Atlantic Ocean!

Here's a few for Massachusetts... Sea Level clearly accelerated in Boston MA in the earlier part of this graph, faster than now.



Boston, MA



Martha's Vineyard- no acceleration at all.

Evidently, Mann's "smoothed" data that results in a Hockey Stick, can NOT be compared to Global Data.

I have one question for you- how can there be Global Tidal Records in Massachusetts, if it is only one point near the Atlantic Ocean?

I think I'm Skeptical about this "Science." :)
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252. Snowlover123 09:04 PM GMT on Juni 21, 2011    
#250- I don't think that spam is tolerated on this blog.
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253. Snowlover123 09:10 PM GMT on Juni 21, 2011    
Other Arctic Datasets also show a very evident slow down in melting.





Those wishing for an Extent near 2007's Extent are going to be sorely dissapointed. As demonstrated here, the Diphole Anomaly will not persist through nearly all summer as 2007's did. We already have storminess in the Arctic here.

If you look very closely, you can now see thin ice returning to the meltponds at the center of this picture.



The Diphole Anomaly, other then possibly returning between D 4-5, looks to not really return for the next 10 days or so.
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254. Snowlover123 09:17 PM GMT on Juni 21, 2011    
Well, Cryosat finally released its first Arctic Sea Ice thickness map.

This image is for January/February of this year. Interestingly, PIPS matches up very well with this data.



Cryosat's detailed Ice thickness map. Notice that there is a lot of thicker ice, including 3, 4, and 5 meter ice.



And here is PIPS. They match up pretty nicely.

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255. Snowlover123 09:22 PM GMT on Juni 21, 2011    
Oh no, it looks like Seasonal Weather Variations, not Carbon Dioxide, are causing a good chunk of the melting that has happened since 1979...!

From Dr. Pielke Sr...

Quote:

New Paper Under Review “Changes In Seasonal Snow Cover In Hindu Kush-Himalayan Region” By Gurung Et Al 2011

Peter Williamson alerted us to a related paper that highlights the major role of regional circulation patterns on climate (this time for the Arctic). The paper is

Smedsrud, L. H., Sirevaag, A., Kloster, K., Sorteberg, A., and Sandven, S.: Recent wind driven high sea ice export in the Fram Strait contributes to Arctic sea ice decline, The Cryosphere Discuss., 5, 1311-1334, doi:10.5194/tcd-5-1311-2011, 2011

Quote:

Arctic sea ice area decrease has been visible for two decades, and continues at a steady rate. Apart from melting, the southward drift through Fram Strait is the main loss. We present high resolution sea ice drift across 79° N from 2004 to 2010. The ice drift is based on radar satellite data and correspond well with variability in local geostrophic wind. The underlying current contributes with a constant southward speed close to 5 cm s−1, and drives about 33 % of the ice export. We use geostrophic winds derived from reanalysis data to calculate the Fram Strait ice area export back to 1957, finding that the sea ice area export recently is about 25 % larger than during the 1960′s. The increase in ice export occurred mostly during winter and is directly connected to higher southward ice drift velocities, due to stronger geostrophic winds. The increase in ice drift is large enough to counteract a decrease in ice concentration of the exported sea ice. Using storm tracking we link changes in geostrophic winds to more intense Nordic Sea low pressure systems. Annual sea ice export likely has a significant influence on the summer sea ice variability and we find low values in the 60′s, the late 80′s and 90′s, and particularly high values during 2005–2008. The study highlight the possible role of variability in ice export as an explanatory factor for understanding the dramatic loss of Arctic sea ice the last decades.

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256. Neapolitan 10:51 PM GMT on Juni 21, 2011    
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Quoting Snowlover123:
Oh no, it looks like Seasonal Weather Variations, not Carbon Dioxide, are causing a good chunk of the melting that has happened since 1979...!

From Dr. Pielke Sr...

Quote:

New Paper Under Review “Changes In Seasonal Snow Cover In Hindu Kush-Himalayan Region” By Gurung Et Al 2011

Peter Williamson alerted us to a related paper that highlights the major role of regional circulation patterns on climate (this time for the Arctic). The paper is

Smedsrud, L. H., Sirevaag, A., Kloster, K., Sorteberg, A., and Sandven, S.: Recent wind driven high sea ice export in the Fram Strait contributes to Arctic sea ice decline, The Cryosphere Discuss., 5, 1311-1334, doi:10.5194/tcd-5-1311-2011, 2011

Quote:

Arctic sea ice area decrease has been visible for two decades, and continues at a steady rate. Apart from melting, the southward drift through Fram Strait is the main loss. We present high resolution sea ice drift across 79° N from 2004 to 2010. The ice drift is based on radar satellite data and correspond well with variability in local geostrophic wind. The underlying current contributes with a constant southward speed close to 5 cm s−1, and drives about 33 % of the ice export. We use geostrophic winds derived from reanalysis data to calculate the Fram Strait ice area export back to 1957, finding that the sea ice area export recently is about 25 % larger than during the 1960′s. The increase in ice export occurred mostly during winter and is directly connected to higher southward ice drift velocities, due to stronger geostrophic winds. The increase in ice drift is large enough to counteract a decrease in ice concentration of the exported sea ice. Using storm tracking we link changes in geostrophic winds to more intense Nordic Sea low pressure systems. Annual sea ice export likely has a significant influence on the summer sea ice variability and we find low values in the 60′s, the late 80′s and 90′s, and particularly high values during 2005–2008. The study highlight the possible role of variability in ice export as an explanatory factor for understanding the dramatic loss of Arctic sea ice the last decades.


Well, I give Pielke points for trying; there's something to be said for persistence, no matter how wrong one may be.
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257. sirmaelstrom 01:00 AM GMT on Juni 22, 2011    
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***Note: I made an error in the calculation below; I compared PIOMAS & IARC-JAXA data from May to Cryosat-2 data from Jan/Feb. I recalculated the thickness comparison in comment № 56 of the next blog entry's comments***

Quoting Snowlover123:
Well, Cryosat finally released its first Arctic Sea Ice thickness map.

This image is for January/February of this year. Interestingly, PIPS matches up very well with this data.



Cryosat's detailed Ice thickness map. Notice that there is a lot of thicker ice, including 3, 4, and 5 meter ice.



And here is PIPS. They match up pretty nicely.



Interesting. I did a "back of the envelope" estimate to see how well the PIOMAS compares below; values are for late May, the most recent PIOMAS model estimates I could find:

From here I estimated that the PIOMAS model gives about 18500 km³ for arctic ice volume.

From here I estimate the ice area from IARC-JAXA as 10x10⁶ km²


Dividing with units here gives an average of about 1.85 m as the average thickness of the arctic sea ice.

It looks to me like the Cryosat-2 data suggests that arctic ice volume/thickness is much greater than what is modeled by PIOMAS. The PIPS2 estimate does seem to be a closer match.

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