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Stickiness and Climate Models: Open Climate Models (2)
Posted by: Dr. Ricky Rood, 05:04 AM GMT on November 30, 2010 +5
Stickiness and Climate Models: Open Climate Models (2)

In the previous entry I motivated the need for communities other than scientists to have access not just to the results from climate models, but to the ability to configure climate models for possible changes to the Earth’s surface and to investigate the impact of those changes. An example I used was the possibility of a project to irrigate the Sahara – a project where it was reasonable to ask how both weather and climate might be modified.

We don’t have to imagine futuristic projects like this to make the argument that more access to configurable, evaluated climate models is needed. Some might recall an entry where I was writing about managing aerosols and greenhouse gases other than carbon dioxide to control warming in the near-term. That entry had been motivated by an outstanding presentation by Professor V. Ramanathan from the University of California San Diego. (I recommend specifically this part of Ram’s web page.) He was talking about an experiment where he was going to investigate whether or not changing cook stoves in India could reduce black carbon in the atmosphere, leading to reduced warming of the planet. While Professor Ramanathan has access to climate models and access to experts to design model experiments, he is not the only interested party in the execution and the results of the model experiments. It is easy to see that all of the regional governments would be interested in their own evaluations; many non-governmental organizations would be interested, as well as corporations and citizens.

In order to get buy in from all of these entities, people will want to be able to evaluate the information and its quality. They are likely going to want to pose their own questions. If such an undertaking was to proceed under the auspices of a treaty, then it is easy to imagine a country wanting to, say, develop its own climate modeling capabilities. And, of course, we will want to evaluate whether or not any action has had the predicted effect. Finally, remember that a scientific evaluation would require that independent researchers verify the information from other researchers.

My argument, suggested in a couple of earlier entries, is that community approaches are called for because of the complexity and ultimate scale that is involved (Using Projections, Downscaling). This stands in contrast to other ways to approach this problem, for example, users forming collaborations with scientists at universities and laboratories, or a new breed of climate consultancy with the needed expertise. No doubt, these other forms of developing climate information will occur and grow; it is the way that weather information is obtained. Restating, I don’t think that the simple extension of the way we provide weather services provides what is needed for climate services.

I want to state, explicitly, that I am in no way making the statement that the community of climate scientists and the availability of climate data and climate information are, fundamentally, closed. In fact, I have argued the contrary - that by the standards of any large, complex knowledge base that I can think of - the data, the analysis, and the deliberations of the climate community are free and available (for example Trust, but Verify, Strength in Many Peers). And without exaggeration, historian Paul Edwards has studied both weather and climate science as pioneering examples of the development of data and information sharing communities - A Vast Machine). That the climate community is excessively closed is part of the political argument. If any readers are aware of good studies about openness of research communities, then please send me (directly) references. My argument is that the requirement to extend the use of climate information to uncountable application communities challenges the current notions of community.

The provision of climate models that are configurable by non-scientists, presumably non-expert communities, is difficult and controversial. I recently gave a talk on this subject at Supercomputing 2010, and the slides of my presentation are linked here. In the next few articles in this series I want to explore some of the challenges that need to be overcome if there were to be open innovation and development of climate models, some ideas on how address the challenges, and some strategies on how to think about uncertainty in climate projections.

Developing Climate Models: Some basic problems

A climate model is built from component models that represent the atmosphere, the oceans, the land surface and the Earth’s ice – the cryosphere. Each of these models is composed of sub-component models, for example, cumulus cloud models. If you were to look around at the clouds, sky, the plants, the people, the landscape, the streams, and ask the question – how do I represent these things as numbers? How do I represent how these things will change? How do I represent how these things interact with each other? If you ask these questions, then you start to appreciate what needs to be included in a climate model. The answers to these questions get written up as narratives and computer codes that in some approximate way represents both the observed behavior and how that behavior changes. This leads to hundreds of thousands lines of computer code, which represent the knowledge of hundreds of types of researchers. To bring all of this together is a big management problem. To make sure that all the pieces work together is not straightforward; there is no single prescription; it is, sometimes, arcane and artistic.


Figure 1. Components of a model of the Earth’s Climate.

Add on top of this inherent tangle of ideas and codes our history, and it only makes the problem harder. We build on existing models, which requires us to use what exists. In some cases it is safe to say that there is computer code 30 years old, written in languages that are no longer taught. It’s a little like trying to keep ancient stone buildings from falling down. This heritage code provides a stubborn inertia that inhibits change and modernization.

Then to this heritage code add to the mix the nature of the computational problem. For as long as I have been a scientist, say 30 years, weather and climate models require the largest computers available, and these supercomputers are not programmed like your Apple or your PC. I know people Putman at NASA today who are trying to scale climate models to run on more than 100,000 processors. To be clear, that is a single model requiring 100,000 processors to run in concert with each other, which is far different than having 100,000 little models running independently. (Weather fans should remember L. F. Richardson). And we cannot stop the weather forecasts and the climate assessments to build something fundamentally new; our mission requires us to keep working along with what we have.

The take away message from this little exposé is that we have a highly specialized problem, with potentially overwhelming complexity, and a long history of how we have managed to get things done. “Managed to get things done” is at the core. All of the scientists and the codes are spread all over. They are not in any formal sense, managed, and we have had to develop management strategies to help control the complexity. We have this tension between management and community and creativity.

I have managed large weather and climate modeling activities when I was at NASA. On a good day, I maintain that I managed this successfully. When I was a manager I sought control, and I grimaced at some naïve ideas of community. My experience tells me that we need to investigate new ways of model development and model use. This need arises because the complexity is too large to control, and this is especially true as we extend the need to use climate models to investigate energy policy decisions and, especially, adaptation to climate change.

In the past decade we have seen the emergence of community approaches to complex problem solving. Within these communities we see the convergence of creativity and the emergence of solution paths. We see self-organizing and self-correcting processes evolve. Counter intuitively, perhaps, we see not anarchy, but the emergence of governance in these open communities. The next entry in the series will focus more on describing open communities.

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151. atmoaggie 11:51 PM GMT on December 08, 2010    
Quoting DoverWxwatchter:
Has anyone done a study on what effects higher CO2 levels have on nitrogen-fixing bacteria atmoaggie?
Like you guys, that's far enough out of my expertise that I am limited to what can be found...very, very little.
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154. cyclonebuster 06:39 AM GMT on December 09, 2010    
Quoting MichaelSTL:


Umm, no.

Just think about it - only ice loss from Greenland or Antarctica could have any such effect because sea ice is already in the water. Same reason why it doesn't affect sea level rise (aside from thermal expansion as the ice-free water warms but this isn't directly due to ice loss).

Not sure what all of this "axis flipping/pole shift" stuff is about anyway (I assume the 2012 nonsense since that is one of the unscientific theories they tout?); only something like a Moon-size asteroid could have a significant effect.


Land masses also lock it in place or it should.
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155. iceagecoming 01:33 PM GMT on December 09, 2010    
updated Thu Dec 9, 2010 8:11am AEDT
Cars come to a standstill at Saint-Arnoult-en-Yvelines toll near Paris.

Cars come to a standstill at Saint-Arnoult-en-Yvelines toll near Paris. (Reuters: Mal Langsdon)

Related Story: Europe cold snap continues to kill
Related Story: 13 die as cold grips Europe
Related Story: Frustration and laughs as Britain gets snowed in
Related Story: Pub-goers snowed in for eight days

Heavy snow blanketed Paris on Wednesday, forcing the closure of the Eiffel Tower and briefly shutting its main airport as sub-zero temperatures turned Scottish roads into deadly ice sheets and Spain and Portugal cleared up after flooding and tornado-like winds.

Road, rail and air travellers faced fresh disruption following last week's transport shutdown, with Paris's Charles de Gaulle-Roissy airport closed for an hour-and-a-half and the mercury plummeting as low as minus 18.3 degrees Celsius at Tyndrum in the Scottish Highlands.

In Portugal, high winds carried off cars, uprooted trees, tore off roofs and blew over electricity poles on Tuesday, leaving around 30 people injured. A second body was recovered in Spain on Wednesday following flooding.

France's meteorological service, France Meteo, said 11 centimetres of snow fell in central Paris, the heaviest snowfall since 1987.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101208/wl_afp/franceweathertransport


http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Record+snowfall+forces+closure+Eiffel+Tower/3950052/story.html


http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,668570,00.html

Records are records, exceeding the norm as per unit of time.

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Pole shift is an established fact,
what effect it has is unclear.
Sometimes the field completely flips. The north and the south poles swap places. Such reversals, recorded in the magnetism of ancient rocks, are unpredictable. They come at irregular intervals averaging about 300,000 years; the last one was 780,000 years ago. Are we overdue for another? No one knows.


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156. cyclonebuster 02:56 PM GMT on December 09, 2010    


Figure 4. Older, thicker multiyear ice cover has decreased since 1992. The solid red line shows the annual multiyear ice loss in the Beaufort Sea. Dashed red shows the cumulative multiyear ice loss in the Beaufort Sea. Black indicates multiyear ice loss through Fram Strait.
Credit: NSIDC courtesy Geophysical Research Letters


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157. iceagecoming 03:30 PM GMT on December 09, 2010    
Should airline passengers pay a small tax to help out? How about global money dealers? Or perhaps governments should take what they spend subsidizing gasoline prices and put it toward the climate cause.
Delegates to the U.N. climate conference hope to agree in its final days on setting up a new "green fund" to help poorer countries grapple with global warming. Then the real arguments will begin - over where the cash will come from.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon stepped into the middle of the debate this year by enlisting a high-level group of international political and financial leaders to offer advice. On Wednesday, the U.N. chief presented their ideas to the conference, including airline and foreign-exchange levies, as he led a discussion with key figures on the panel.
It will be "challenging but feasible and doable even in the context of the ongoing economic crisis" to raise $100 billion a year by 2020, as promised by richer nations at last year's climate conference in Copenhagen, Denmark, Ban said.
Adequate financial support would build trust between the developing and developed world, needed to forge an eventual umbrella agreement among all nations to fight climate change, he said.
Besides the green fund, the annual two-week meeting of parties to the 193-nation U.N. climate treaty may also agree on ways to make it easier for poorer nations to obtain patented green technology, and may pin down further elements of a plan to compensate developing nations for protecting their climate-friendly forests.
But once more, as at the Copenhagen summit, negotiators won't produce a sweeping deal to succeed the relatively modest Kyoto Protocol after 2012, one that would slash greenhouse gases to curb climate change.
The United States has long refused to join Kyoto, which requires limited emissions reductions by richer nations, and whose commitments expire in 2012. The United States complained the accord would hurt its economy and should have mandated actions as well by such emerging economies as China and India.
Washington's climate envoy, Todd Stern, repeated that position in Cancun on Wednesday, saying the United States won't sign up to any legally binding climate pact unless it applies to "all the major countries," including China and India.


Maybe Obama should lead by example,
I'm sure his core support will remain true
under the additional error load


Meanwhile, carbon dioxide and other global warming emissions from industry, vehicles and agriculture continue to accumulate in the atmosphere.

That's why it is so cold!

The green fund would be considered a key success for Cancun, but many details would remain to be worked out later.
The financing would help developing nations buy advanced clean-energy technology to reduce their own emissions, and to adapt to climate change, such as building seawalls against rising seas and upgrading farming practices to compensate for shifting rain patterns.
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158. cyclonebuster 03:36 PM GMT on December 09, 2010    
Quoting iceagecoming:
Should airline passengers pay a small tax to help out? How about global money dealers? Or perhaps governments should take what they spend subsidizing gasoline prices and put it toward the climate cause.
Delegates to the U.N. climate conference hope to agree in its final days on setting up a new "green fund" to help poorer countries grapple with global warming. Then the real arguments will begin - over where the cash will come from.
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon stepped into the middle of the debate this year by enlisting a high-level group of international political and financial leaders to offer advice. On Wednesday, the U.N. chief presented their ideas to the conference, including airline and foreign-exchange levies, as he led a discussion with key figures on the panel.
It will be "challenging but feasible and doable even in the context of the ongoing economic crisis" to raise $100 billion a year by 2020, as promised by richer nations at last year's climate conference in Copenhagen, Denmark, Ban said.
Adequate financial support would build trust between the developing and developed world, needed to forge an eventual umbrella agreement among all nations to fight climate change, he said.
Besides the green fund, the annual two-week meeting of parties to the 193-nation U.N. climate treaty may also agree on ways to make it easier for poorer nations to obtain patented green technology, and may pin down further elements of a plan to compensate developing nations for protecting their climate-friendly forests.
But once more, as at the Copenhagen summit, negotiators won't produce a sweeping deal to succeed the relatively modest Kyoto Protocol after 2012, one that would slash greenhouse gases to curb climate change.
The United States has long refused to join Kyoto, which requires limited emissions reductions by richer nations, and whose commitments expire in 2012. The United States complained the accord would hurt its economy and should have mandated actions as well by such emerging economies as China and India.
Washington's climate envoy, Todd Stern, repeated that position in Cancun on Wednesday, saying the United States won't sign up to any legally binding climate pact unless it applies to "all the major countries," including China and India.


Maybe Obama should lead by example,
I'm sure his core support will remain true
under the additional error load


Meanwhile, carbon dioxide and other global warming emissions from industry, vehicles and agriculture continue to accumulate in the atmosphere.

That's why it is so cold!

The green fund would be considered a key success for Cancun, but many details would remain to be worked out later.
The financing would help developing nations buy advanced clean-energy technology to reduce their own emissions, and to adapt to climate change, such as building seawalls against rising seas and upgrading farming practices to compensate for shifting rain patterns.


Why not tap the Kinetic Energy in the Gulf Stream and bypass all that dung!
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160. cyclonebuster 08:45 PM GMT on December 09, 2010    
Quoting MichaelSTL:


Why not ignore him and his lies?

Like the nonsense about global cooling, which the deniers have hyped since the 1970s (and claim that scientists predicted it back then) - and have failed to come close to being right!

Or that climate action would destroy the economy:

Introduction to climate economics: Why even strong climate action has such a low total cost
A cost of one tenth of a penny on the dollar -- not counting co-benefits


Surely you could afford that with no changes at all in your spending and lifestyle (e.g. the average person wouldn't know the difference if their electricity came from wind or coal); that is just $1 out of $1,000; e.g. instead of paying $10.00 for something, you might pay $10.01 for it. I would also know about this because most electronic components are now made to conform to the EU's RoHS regulations (even those bought in the U.S. because of the global nature of the market), meaning no toxic substances like lead*, yet the compliant parts don't cost more (reliability concerns are also unfounded).

*Of course, CFLs aren't banned in the EU despite having mercury (but the amount is limited), nor are lead-acid batteries (I suppose the same could apply to fossil fuels in some situations, or for use in non-fuel processes like plastic).


They ain't gonna do it Michael. They gonna get that oil out of the ground even if it kills us all!
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163. cyclonebuster 09:15 PM GMT on December 09, 2010    
Quoting MichaelSTL:
Especially now, when the denier's favorite dataset still shows November being warmer than most months prior to this year (and strangely doesn't reflect the big drop in the unadjusted satellite data; I was sure that November would be much cooler, even by comparing it to last year, which should offset any base period and seasonal cycle differences and most of any extraneous trend; compare the difference in January 2008 to November or the the latter part of 2008/early 2009)!



Note also that the unadjusted satellite data appears to show cooling from 2002 to 2007, but the adjusted data shows warming! And this is from a global warming denier!


That month line should be in years. It is just all screwy to see it that way! Harder pin point the years also since they are not using factors of 12.
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166. cyclonebuster 10:52 PM GMT on December 09, 2010    
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167. cyclonebuster 10:59 PM GMT on December 09, 2010    
@165

Few of the climate science dis informers have been as wrong dead wrong as Spencer for as long. He famously made a bunch of analytical blunders and spent years pushing the now long-overturned notion that the satellite data didn't show significant warming (see Should you believe anything John Christy and Roy Spencer say?). As RealClimate explained: So after that history, we%u2019re supposed to savor all Roy%u2019s new cookery?

So I think the working assumption should be that when Spencer pushes some convoluted new analysis to justify his views, it's more cookery an assumption that has so far stood the test of time as Spencers claims have grown more absurd over time [see The Great Global Warming Blunder: Roy Spencer asserts (and Morano parrots), I predict that the proposed cure for global warming reducing greenhouse gas emissions will someday seem as outdated as using leeches to cure human illnesses. Uhh, guys, doctors still use medicinal leeches!]
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168. iceagecoming 04:55 AM GMT on December 10, 2010    
It gets even better, we have now a record cold that goes back 450 years.
How could that be when we burned all
that oil in the gulf this summer.
Tell you what it is not, Hot.
Time to get a clue. Enjoy.


Link

It's been one of the coldest starts to winter ever recorded (based on Central England Temperature (CET) records which started in 1659), with numerous local records broken.

Such has been the intensity of the cold, rivers across Yorkshire have begun to freeze over, a rare phenomenon in itself, but virtually unheard of so early in the winter season.

After that there is an unusual level of agreement for so far ahead, between most models, that a very cold and potentially snowy pattern will become established.

North or Northeast winds will dominate the UK by the end of next week and into next weekend, with atmospheric weather patterns well blocked across higher latitudes.

Blocking patterns are very difficult to break down, suggesting a wintry scenario in the lead up to christmas.

If this is the case, then December could challenge 1981 for its severity, itself the coldest and snowiest December of the last century.
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169. cyclonebuster 04:18 PM GMT on December 10, 2010    
Quoting iceagecoming:
It gets even better, we have now a record cold that goes back 450 years.
How could that be when we burned all
that oil in the gulf this summer.
Tell you what it is not, Hot.
Time to get a clue. Enjoy.


Link

It's been one of the coldest starts to winter ever recorded (based on Central England Temperature (CET) records which started in 1659), with numerous local records broken.

Such has been the intensity of the cold, rivers across Yorkshire have begun to freeze over, a rare phenomenon in itself, but virtually unheard of so early in the winter season.

After that there is an unusual level of agreement for so far ahead, between most models, that a very cold and potentially snowy pattern will become established.

North or Northeast winds will dominate the UK by the end of next week and into next weekend, with atmospheric weather patterns well blocked across higher latitudes.

Blocking patterns are very difficult to break down, suggesting a wintry scenario in the lead up to christmas.

If this is the case, then December could challenge 1981 for its severity, itself the coldest and snowiest December of the last century.


Regional not global!
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