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Still watching for a potential early-season Atlantic subtropical storm
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 07:10 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009 +1
The latest 00Z and 12Z runs of the GFS, UKMET, NOGAPS, and ECMWF global dynamical computer models continue to indicate the possibility of an early season subtropical storm forming in the Gulf of Mexico 3 - 7 days from now. A modest area of low shear air is expected to open up between the polar jet stream to the north and the subtropical jet stream to the south, between Cuba and the northern Gulf of Mexico. The models have not been consistent with the timing or the size of this low shear area, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them back off again from this forecast with Sunday's set of runs. Nevertheless, I'll call once again for a 10% chance of development of a subtropical depression in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, 4 - 7 days from now. There isn't much of a disturbance at present to look at--there are some scattered showers between Cuba and Jamaica, but they are under a hefty 30 knots of wind shear. These showers should gradually increase in intensity and areal coverage over the next two days, and phase space diagrams from Florida State University indicate that an extratropical low may form near the western tip of Cuba 2 - 3 days from now. The storm may then gradually transition to a subtropical or tropical system later in the week, if the shear is low enough. Even if the shear is high and the storm remains extratropical, it could be a substantial rain-maker where it comes ashore. The models target the northern Gulf Coast between Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle as the most likely landfall location, but it is too early to place any confidence in this track.

There is also about a 10% chance a subtropical storm may form in the mid-Atlantic a few hundred miles east of Bermuda. There, a large upper-level cold low has cut off from the jet stream, and it may spin in place long enough over the next week to develop a warm core and be classified as a subtropical storm. It is unlikely that a subtropical storm forming that far out in the Atlantic this early in the year would pose a threat to any land areas, with the possible exception of Bermuda.

Climatology of early-season Atlantic tropical cyclones
Tropical storms are uncommon in the Atlantic before June 1, with only 26 named storms on record between 1851 - 2008. Five of these have made it to hurricane strength, and only one--Hurricane Able of 1951--made it to major hurricane status. Last year's Tropical Storm Arthur may be the deadliest May tropical cyclone on record. Though only a 40 mph tropical storm at landfall, Arthur killed five people in Belize and caused $78 million in damage. Three early-season storms have brought hurricane-force winds to land. The March 1908 hurricane swept through the northern Lesser Antilles Islands as a Category 1 or 2 hurricane, destroying at least 24 boats and causing damage to buildings on St. Bartholomew. Hurricane Able of 1951 brought sustained winds of 90 - 95 mph to the northern Bahama Islands, but caused little damage. Hurricane 2 of May 1908 hit North Carolina's Outer Banks as a Category 1 hurricane, but also caused little damage.


Figure 1. Tracking map for the earliest hurricane to make landfall, the March 1908 hurricane in the northern Lesser Antilles Islands.

List of all early season (formed in January - May) Atlantic named storms
May 31, 2008: Tropical Storm Arthur
May 6, 2007: Subtropical Storm Andrea
April 18, 2003: Tropical Storm Ana
April 21, 1992: Subtropical Storm 1
May 6, 1981: Tropical Storm Arlene
January 18, 1978: Subtropical Storm 1
May 21, 1976: Subtropical Storm 1
May 23, 1972: Subtropical Storm Alpha
May 17, 1970: Hurricane Alma (Category 1)
May 28, 1959: Tropical Storm Arlene
February 2, 1953: Tropical Storm Alice
May 25, 1952: Tropical Storm 1
May 15, 1951: Hurricane Able (Category 3)
May 22, 1948: Tropical Storm 1
May 19, 1940: Tropical Storm 1
May 27, 1934: Tropical Storm 1
May 14, 1933: Tropical Storm 1
May 5, 1932: Tropical Storm 1
May 13, 1916: Tropical Storm 1
May 24, 1908: Hurricane 2 (Category 1)
March 6, 1908: Hurricane 1 (Category 2)
May 27, 1890: Tropical Storm 1
May 16, 1889: Hurricane 1 (Category 1)
May 17, 1887: Tropical Storm 2
May 15, 1887: Tropical Storm 1
May 30, 1865: Tropical Storm 1

I'll have an update Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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251. NorthxCakalaky 09:54 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
WeatherStudent


Blocked.
252. Patrap 09:54 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
I know a Good Wu-Lawyer.

But he requires a Huge retainer fee.
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254. hahaguy 09:55 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
Wunderground banned Futuremet on the account that he is a troll. He's making an appeal. Hopefully he will get through.


Ya, if he's a troll I'm the Ham burglar .
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255. Drakoen 09:55 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:
GFS tags with NAM lol...


The NAM trying to improve it's rep this season. We will see.
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257. beell 09:56 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION


CONFIDENCE IS SLIGHTLY BETTER IN REGARDS TO THE EVOLUTION OF A LOW FEATURE ...BUT REMAINS VERY LOW WITH RESPECT TO EXACT INTENSITY AND TRACK GUIDANCE. WILL CLOSELY FOLLOW FUTURE MODEL RUNS AND UPPER AIR DATA TO GET A BETTER GRIP ON THIS UPCOMING
SCENARIO.


Another chicken/egg/fence sitter!
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259. stormpetrol 09:56 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Pressure in Grand Cayman down to 1011.7mb from 1014 this morning so it appears something is happening in this area.
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260. Drakoen 09:57 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Don't know if any one noticed but this shift is back to where we were from the beginning lol.
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261. IKE 09:57 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
2 lows...WTH?

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263. cchsweatherman 09:58 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
I have decided that I will wait a few more runs before jumping aboard on the model bandwagon since the 18Z model run set depicts a totally new solution and needs much more consistency before being totally believed. But I will say that this set represents probably the most realistic solution to date.
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264. NorthxCakalaky 09:59 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Can someone copy and paste all the trolls on here so I have them on the ignore list?
266. moonlightcowboy 09:59 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Drak, we got CAT 5s already? ;) j/k...thanks folks for the updates.

Maybe it'll get some rain for the folks that need it! Less dry air, and some good turning down there.

LINK

And, man that thing out in the mAtl is really doing some churning.
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267. Drakoen 09:59 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
2 lows...WTH?



The low in the central GOM is the hybrid in this run. It's under the upper low. The one over Florida is debatable. Subtropical or tropical entity especially considering southern origins.
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268. beell 10:00 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
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269. cchsweatherman 10:01 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
2 lows...WTH?



Just another example showing how complex this weather pattern will be just a couple days down the road. Good luck to the true forecasters at the local NWS offices in Florida and along the Gulf Coast in terms of developing a forecast.
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271. IKE 10:02 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Now it's shifting WNW...
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272. cg2916 10:03 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
18Z GFS is very agressive with 3 lows already. 3, not 2.
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273. Drakoen 10:03 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting Vortex95:
I live in Cape Town South Africa what should I do to prepare for this deadly system of hell? Please I beg of you!!!


Take a shuttle to the Sun.
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276. SevereHurricane 10:06 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting Vortex95:
I live in Cape Town South Africa what should I do to prepare for this deadly system of hell? Please I beg of you!!!


ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
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277. cchsweatherman 10:06 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Just like some have noted here, I have been watching the pressures lower throughout the day in the NW Caribbean. Doesn't seem to be related to normal diurnal shifts as the pressures have lowered faster than normal. Could be something brewing down near Cuba, but I will have to wait and continue watching observations down there before definitively concluding that.
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279. Drakoen 10:07 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
The NOGAPS 18z has made quite a shift to the east compared to its previous runs.
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280. SevereHurricane 10:08 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Whelp,
There it is again...

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281. Patrap 10:08 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    

The Preakness is about to Start,on NBC

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282. cg2916 10:08 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Apparently, acorridng to the GFS shows the low fizzling in the GOM after FL.
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284. Patrap 10:10 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
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285. beell 10:10 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
Don't know if any one noticed but this shift is back to where we were from the beginning lol.


Classic GFS!
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287. weathermanwannabe 10:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Somebody need a permmanent ban from the Blog..
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288. Patrap 10:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
In works
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289. IKE 10:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


really on what channel again?


Well....he's in NO,LA.....you're in south Florida....I doubt it's the same station in both locations...***takes another Xanax***
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290. Drakoen 10:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
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291. SevereHurricane 10:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting cchsweatherman:
Just like some have noted here, I have been watching the pressures lower throughout the day in the NW Caribbean. Doesn't seem to be related to normal diurnal shifts as the pressures have lowered faster than normal. Could be something brewing down near Cuba, but I will have to wait and continue watching observations down there before definitively concluding that.


I personally think if the GFS is right, that's it brewing in the Caribbean as I type this, But I want to see this trend continue for a couple of more hours before I jusp to a conclusion.
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292. Stormchaser2007 10:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


really on what channel again?


You're kidding!
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293. sngalla 10:12 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Out of curiosity, why is the pic in your avatar from 1985?
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294. hurricane23 10:12 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
NOGAPS 18Z


I'll get my canoe ready.
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296. IKE 10:12 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
This darn thing can't make up it's mind....and I'm talking about the blob, not WeatherStudentJFV.
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297. Drakoen 10:13 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:


I'll get my canoe ready.


Takes it back out into the GOM too
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298. Patrap 10:13 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Now Im really confused IKE..LOL
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299. SevereHurricane 10:13 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


really on what channel again?


Are you serious?
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301. IKE 10:14 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting SevereHurricane:


Are you serious?


His answer...yes and no.

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