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Still watching for a potential early-season Atlantic subtropical storm
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 07:10 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009 +1
The latest 00Z and 12Z runs of the GFS, UKMET, NOGAPS, and ECMWF global dynamical computer models continue to indicate the possibility of an early season subtropical storm forming in the Gulf of Mexico 3 - 7 days from now. A modest area of low shear air is expected to open up between the polar jet stream to the north and the subtropical jet stream to the south, between Cuba and the northern Gulf of Mexico. The models have not been consistent with the timing or the size of this low shear area, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them back off again from this forecast with Sunday's set of runs. Nevertheless, I'll call once again for a 10% chance of development of a subtropical depression in the eastern Gulf of Mexico, 4 - 7 days from now. There isn't much of a disturbance at present to look at--there are some scattered showers between Cuba and Jamaica, but they are under a hefty 30 knots of wind shear. These showers should gradually increase in intensity and areal coverage over the next two days, and phase space diagrams from Florida State University indicate that an extratropical low may form near the western tip of Cuba 2 - 3 days from now. The storm may then gradually transition to a subtropical or tropical system later in the week, if the shear is low enough. Even if the shear is high and the storm remains extratropical, it could be a substantial rain-maker where it comes ashore. The models target the northern Gulf Coast between Louisiana and the Florida Panhandle as the most likely landfall location, but it is too early to place any confidence in this track.

There is also about a 10% chance a subtropical storm may form in the mid-Atlantic a few hundred miles east of Bermuda. There, a large upper-level cold low has cut off from the jet stream, and it may spin in place long enough over the next week to develop a warm core and be classified as a subtropical storm. It is unlikely that a subtropical storm forming that far out in the Atlantic this early in the year would pose a threat to any land areas, with the possible exception of Bermuda.

Climatology of early-season Atlantic tropical cyclones
Tropical storms are uncommon in the Atlantic before June 1, with only 26 named storms on record between 1851 - 2008. Five of these have made it to hurricane strength, and only one--Hurricane Able of 1951--made it to major hurricane status. Last year's Tropical Storm Arthur may be the deadliest May tropical cyclone on record. Though only a 40 mph tropical storm at landfall, Arthur killed five people in Belize and caused $78 million in damage. Three early-season storms have brought hurricane-force winds to land. The March 1908 hurricane swept through the northern Lesser Antilles Islands as a Category 1 or 2 hurricane, destroying at least 24 boats and causing damage to buildings on St. Bartholomew. Hurricane Able of 1951 brought sustained winds of 90 - 95 mph to the northern Bahama Islands, but caused little damage. Hurricane 2 of May 1908 hit North Carolina's Outer Banks as a Category 1 hurricane, but also caused little damage.


Figure 1. Tracking map for the earliest hurricane to make landfall, the March 1908 hurricane in the northern Lesser Antilles Islands.

List of all early season (formed in January - May) Atlantic named storms
May 31, 2008: Tropical Storm Arthur
May 6, 2007: Subtropical Storm Andrea
April 18, 2003: Tropical Storm Ana
April 21, 1992: Subtropical Storm 1
May 6, 1981: Tropical Storm Arlene
January 18, 1978: Subtropical Storm 1
May 21, 1976: Subtropical Storm 1
May 23, 1972: Subtropical Storm Alpha
May 17, 1970: Hurricane Alma (Category 1)
May 28, 1959: Tropical Storm Arlene
February 2, 1953: Tropical Storm Alice
May 25, 1952: Tropical Storm 1
May 15, 1951: Hurricane Able (Category 3)
May 22, 1948: Tropical Storm 1
May 19, 1940: Tropical Storm 1
May 27, 1934: Tropical Storm 1
May 14, 1933: Tropical Storm 1
May 5, 1932: Tropical Storm 1
May 13, 1916: Tropical Storm 1
May 24, 1908: Hurricane 2 (Category 1)
March 6, 1908: Hurricane 1 (Category 2)
May 27, 1890: Tropical Storm 1
May 16, 1889: Hurricane 1 (Category 1)
May 17, 1887: Tropical Storm 2
May 15, 1887: Tropical Storm 1
May 30, 1865: Tropical Storm 1

I'll have an update Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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51. Cavin Rawlins 08:00 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
Well long time no see...looks like maybe something interesting to watch out in the Atlantic now.


Welcome back!
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52. Patrap 08:00 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Here is the GOM May 15 TCHP 08-09 Comparison though.

Gulf of Mexico (Updated every ~10-15 mins.)

More TCHP this year than last at this time,easily.

Tropical Cyclone Heat Potential

Gulf of Mexico Fields
Date: May 15 2009


15 May 2009


15 May 2008
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53. CaneWarning 08:01 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
The gulf is warm.
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54. cg2916 08:01 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Hey, extreme. I just came back to Wunderground about 1-2 weeks ago, myself.
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55. hurricane23 08:03 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Nevere mind.
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56. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 08:03 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
good to see ya 236
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57. hurricanemaniac123 08:03 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Hi extreme, I just came back this morning!

LOL
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58. CaneWarning 08:04 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:
Nevere mind.


Nice avatar...is that Andrew?
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59. extreme236 08:04 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Yup I'm back...figured I should get back to the tropics now that the season starts up in less than a month.
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60. stormpetrol 08:04 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Good Afternoon to all, pressure here in Grand Cayman has dropped 2 mb since this morning down to 1012 now, not that low but worth watching.
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61. CaneWarning 08:05 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
Yup I'm back...figured I should get back to the tropics now that the season starts up in less than a month.


What is your take on the blob?
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62. kmanislander 08:05 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:


Nice avatar...is that Andrew?


Distracting though LOL
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63. IKE 08:05 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
Well long time no see...looks like maybe something interesting to watch out in the Atlantic now.


Hey extreme.
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64. CaneWarning 08:07 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:


Distracting though LOL


Yeah, I keep watching it.
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65. Patrap 08:07 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:


Distracting though LOL


Not if ya cant see it, Squeaky Hint..LOL
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66. SevereHurricane 08:07 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Good to see ya Extreme!
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67. extreme236 08:07 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:


What is your take on the blob?


I was just about to check that out...I got a new computer so I don't have any of my cool satellite and model links from last year.
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68. Cavin Rawlins 08:07 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Good Afternoon to all, pressure here in Grand Cayman has dropped 2 mb since this morning down to 1012 now, not that low but worth watching.


was it a normal afternoon dropped or a 24 hr tendency, that is a drop compared to this time yesterday.
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69. beell 08:08 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Even if the shear is high and the storm remains extratropical, it could be a substantial rain-maker where it comes ashore.

Thanks, Doc! Shear may prohibit development of a totally tropical system but it will do its part to add deep layer support for convection.

All the while this thing drifts NW-ish waiting for some lee troughing to develop over the central CONUS while high pressure over the NE drifts slowly eastward- Plenty rain over the coast as it approaches the weakness between these features.

A central gulf coast landfall would seem to split the difference between developing troughiness to the west and the departing high to the NE of the surface low.

Then some interaction as it gets absorbed by the next eastward moving system over the US. Who the heck knows when that will be. Note the long extended off-days for Vortex2! Could be Monday-a-week from now!

This system and its effects may be quite surprising.
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70. kmanislander 08:08 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:


Not if ya cant see it, Squeaky Hint..LOL


Ahem !!
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71. stillwaiting 08:09 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
pressure down here in swfl as well over the last 24hrs...
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72. extreme236 08:09 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Nice to see all the regulars from last year around again :)

And that I wasnt forgotten lol
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73. CybrTeddy 08:10 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    

GFS, NOGAPS, UKMET, ECMWF, and a few other lesser known ones all on for Development.
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74. stillwaiting 08:10 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
at 1015.5mb..
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75. kmanislander 08:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Hi there 236

Yep, one by one we all show up again LOL

As for the "blob" near the Caymans we could sure use the rain.
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76. hurricane23 08:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:


Nice avatar...is that Andrew?


Its an animated gif of the last radar image taken from NHC before the WSR-57 radar was blown off the roof. My experience with 160+mph winds in florida city.
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77. cchsweatherman 08:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
Well long time no see...looks like maybe something interesting to watch out in the Atlantic now.


Welcome back Extreme. Glad to have you back. Hope all has been well.

Quoting stormpetrol:
Good Afternoon to all, pressure here in Grand Cayman has dropped 2 mb since this morning down to 1012 now, not that low but worth watching.


Thats an interesting observation right there. Keep us updated as it may suggest something could be happening.
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78. CybrTeddy 08:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
Nice to see all the regulars from last year around again :)


Hey Extreme! Been awhile! The ole' crews back for yet another season.
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79. CaneWarning 08:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:


Its an animated gif of the last radar image taken from NHC before the WSR-57 radar was blown off the roof. My experience with 160+mph winds in florida city.


Yeah, I was in Homestead for that one.
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80. extreme236 08:11 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:
Hi there 236

Yep, one by one we all show up again LOL

As for the "blob" near the Caymans we could sure use the rain.


Guess my tropical weather senses drew me back maybe? lol
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81. Patrap 08:12 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Interesting that the NCEP Ensemble 24 hrs ago was on it,and remains.

But looks like the initialization Point is OFF



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82. kmanislander 08:12 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Hey Adrian, any chance of a "still" image ?

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83. hurricane23 08:13 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:


Yeah, I was in Homestead for that one.


My aunts house was on US1 and 312 street in florida city.
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84. stormpetrol 08:13 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


was it a normal afternoon dropped or a 24 hr tendency, that is a drop compared to this time yesterday.


Definitely lower than yesterday.
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85. kmanislander 08:13 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
80. extreme236 8:11 PM GMT on May 16, 2009

Absolutely, like bears coming out of hibernation LOL
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86. CybrTeddy 08:14 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
As for precentages,
I really want the rain, my yard looks like Mars. So, I'll be less conservitive and say 50% chance of it.

The whole state needs it badly as usual. Need a fay to fix things up.
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87. hurricane23 08:15 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting kmanislander:
Hey Adrian, any chance of a "still" image ?



Hey Kman,

Of course here you go.

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88. SouthALWX 08:15 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:


Its an animated gif of the last radar image taken from NHC before the WSR-57 radar was blown off the roof. My experience with 160 mph winds in florida city.


wow didn't realize it was actual radar shots ... I was thinking it was just an animated hypothetical apocolyptocane .... 0.0
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89. cg2916 08:15 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Interesting that the NCEP Ensemble 24 hrs ago was on it,and remains.




Doing a Katrina in the path.
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90. stillwaiting 08:16 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Psu weather wall:Link
NOAA:Link

hope that gets you started extreme!!!Link
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91. kmanislander 08:16 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
That was strange, wrong "cut"
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92. Patrap 08:16 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
This aint August...for sure.Similar GOM Path though.
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93. extreme236 08:16 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Wouldn't surprise me to see an pre-season storm this year...seems to be more of the norm in recent years. Just from my quick glance at things I'm a bit more interested in the mid-atlantic low for subtropical development...still a decent amount of shear in the Caribbean. Nonetheless some of that persistence in the models makes it worth watching, something I couldnt help remembering from last year.
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94. Huracaneer 08:16 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Does anybody have that link to that site that shows the possibility of hurricane formation (the ones with the purple, blue, etc squares)? I seem to have lost my link. Thanks in advance
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95. CaneWarning 08:17 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:


My aunts house was on US1 and 312 street in florida city.


Yeah we were right off of US1 ourselves just north of Homestead, but still south of Cutler.
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96. extreme236 08:17 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting stillwaiting:
extreme SJ site:http://www.stormjunkie.com/pages/modelink/models1.php
Psu weather wall:Link
NOAA:Link

hope that gets you started!!!


Thank you!
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97. SevereHurricane 08:17 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:


Yeah, I was in Homestead for that one.


How would you describe it?
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98. hurricane23 08:18 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting Huracaneer:
Does anybody have that link to that site that shows the possibility of hurricane formation (the ones with the purple, blue, etc squares)? I seem to have lost my link. Thanks in advance


Sure HERE you go.
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99. kmanislander 08:18 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
87. hurricane23 8:15 PM GMT on May 16, 2009

Well I tried LOL
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100. CaneWarning 08:18 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
Quoting SevereHurricane:


How would you describe it?


Hell.
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101. Patrap 08:19 PM GMT on Maj 16, 2009    
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