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November Atlantic hurricane season outlook
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 01:00 PM GMT on Oktober 31, 2008 +2
A small area of disturbed weather in the extreme southern Caribbean has brought heavy rains of up 4-6 inches to Costa Rica and southern Nicaragua over the past two days. This disturbance should persist for the next 3-5 days, and the UKMET and NOGAPS models continue to forecast that a tropical depression could form in this region 4-7 days from now. Steering currents are weak in the area, and any storm forming there would move slowly. Nicaragua would be at greatest risk from such a storm.

Late season Atlantic tropical storms
What are the odds of getting a late-season November or December tropical storm? In the active hurricane period that began in 1995, we've had nine tropical storms in November, and four in December, for an average of one late season storm per year. Six of these late season storms have become hurricanes. The record for late season named storms is four, which occurred in 2005, when three November and one December storm formed. The typical formation location for these late-season storms is the Western Caribbean or the middle Atlantic (Figure 1). The Western Caribbean storms are the most dangerous. There have been two Category 4 hurricanes that have formed in November in that region, Hurricane Lenny of 1999 (the strongest late-season hurricane on record, with 155 mph winds), and Hurricane Michelle of 2001. November storms are primarily a theat to Central America, Cuba, the Cayman Islands, the Bahamas, and the Gulf Coast of Florida.


Figure 1. Historical tropical cyclone tracks in the Atlantic for storms that formed in the first half of November. The Western Caribbean is the preferred formation region.

Sea Surface Temperatures
Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) are cooling, but are still warm enough to support a tropical storm over the Caribbean (Figure 1). The Gulf of Mexico will cool significantly in the coming week, due to the presence of cold air and northwesterly winds. It is now too late for the Gulf to spawn a tropical storm, and any hurricane or tropical storm that passes into the Gulf will likely weaken due to the cool SSTs there. The total heat content of the ocean is still high enough to support a major hurricane in the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) on October 29, 2008. The 26 °C isotherm (red line that separates blue colors from yellow colors) marks the boundary where SSTs are warm enough to support a tropical storm. Image credit: NOAA/AOML.

Wind shear
High wind shear is main reason we don't get many November tropical storms. Wind shear is currently very high north of the Caribbean Sea, and is forecast to remain high for the next two weeks (Figure 3). However, shear is low over the Caribbean, and is forecast to remain low for at least the next two weeks.


Figure 3. Forecast wind shear (in meters per second) for Friday, November 7, at 06 GMT. This is an 8-day forecast generated by the 12Z GMT run of the GFS model on Thursday, October 30. The Caribbean is forecast to remain under low shear for the first half of November, while the U.S. will be protected by very high shear, thanks to the presence of the jet stream.

MJO
We are currently in the phase of the Madden-Julian Oscillation (MJO) that suppresses Atlantic tropical storm formation. The MJO is a pattern of enhanced rainfall that travels along the Equator, and can act to boost hurricane activity when it propagates into the Atlantic. The MJO has a period of about 30-60 days. According to the latest 15-day GFS model forecast and the MJO discussion from the National Weather Service's Climate Prediction Center, we are expected to remain in the inactive phase for the MJO for the next two weeks. By mid-November, we may transition to a positive MJO again. This year, the active phase of the MJO has been strongly correlated with formation of named storms in the Atlantic. Thus, the chances for a late-season named storm may increase by mid-November.

Summary
Given past climatology, warm SSTs in the Caribbean, and forecast low wind shear over the Caribbean for the first half of November, I put the odds at 50% we will see a named storm in the western or south-central Caribbean in the first half of November. Given the recent history of such storms, there is a 50% chance that such a storm would become a hurricane.

I'll update this blog over the weekend if there's any developments in the tropics worth reporting.

For those interested, the portlight.org charity now features a blog that details the recent Hurricane Ike relief effort they undertook.

Jeff Masters
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501. sugarsand 02:23 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting pottery:
Nite, Sugar.
(wonders what my wife would think.....)

Sweet dreams all. :) LOL!
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502. RobDaHood 02:26 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting pottery:
Nite, Sugar.
(wonders what my wife would think.....)


LOL

at least if there was ever any question, I could go here and show my girl where I was while she was out of town!
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503. pottery 02:27 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
A good alibi is a good thing......
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504. pottery 02:29 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
...on the other hand, you COULD be in Mustique, doing this on your blueberry LOL
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505. RobDaHood 02:30 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting pottery:
A good alibi is a good thing......


ROFL - seriously, the dog is running for the other room - thinks I've lost it...

on that note I'll say goodnight friends...I really do appreciate all of you...for your weather wisdom, but just as much for the good times!

-rob
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506. pottery 02:32 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
I'm out too, its been fun again.
Stay safe, all..
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507. RTLSNK (Mod) 02:36 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Yeah, me too, early day tomorrow, watch the sky, its really cool tonite!
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508. antonio28 03:04 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
action is starting in the soutern caribbean.
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509. hurristat 05:03 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting pottery:
Pots Theorem #1

The level of angst and discord on the blog is directly and proportionately related to the lack of tropical storms etc......

Anyone want to submit theorem # 2 ??


The number of trolls is directly proportional with the square to the danger a storm presents to land.
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510. Cotillion 08:33 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
-creeps in-

Yes yes, Pottery, feel free to have your 5 minutes of gloating. ;)

Now, with 2/3 of my sports teams losing this weekend, my Ravens better not let me down today....

000
ABNT20 KNHC 020542
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT SUN NOV 2 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER BEVEN

Not even a ripple out there.
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512. Bobbyweather 08:59 AM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting Cotillion:
-creeps in-

Yes yes, Pottery, feel free to have your 5 minutes of gloating. ;)

Now, with 2/3 of my sports teams losing this weekend, my Ravens better not let me down today....

000
ABNT20 KNHC 020542
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 AM EDT SUN NOV 2 2008

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER BEVEN

Not even a ripple out there.

Let me quote that DST has ended and the NHC has made a tiny mistake on time change. It should be 100 AM EST, not 200 AM EDT.
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516. RTLSNK (Mod) 12:05 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Good morning, temp in Macon, Ga = 39 F, 92% humidity, clear sky.

Hi Vort, 530 is really early!!
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517. RTLSNK (Mod) 12:31 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
World must be asleep, BBL.
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518. Autistic2 12:32 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting hurristat:


The number of trolls is directly proportional with the square to the danger a storm presents to land.


Good morning all

Get out the fork, I think this season is done for the U.S.
I have been wondering about this term but wanted to wait until nothing much was going on. What is a troll? Some one that says something you don't like? Someone off topic? Some one lying about who they are? Some one being mean and just trying to start some S.....!

I have learned much about tropical weather this year from this site. Especially Storm. He makes things simple.

Will read the blog again after church.

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519. CybrTeddy 12:32 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
I believe all the models point to development in the Caribbean. In the EPAC front they are about to have their 'P' name.
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521. CounterClockWise 12:58 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Good Rainy Mornin all!!! I know I'm getting flagged for this....but I can't resist...Does anyone see the irony of McCain/Palin ads on a website called "The Weather Underground"?? Ok back to the rain in "sunny" South Florida.
522. 954FtLCane 01:03 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
thank god the election is almost over.....bang bang bang...moose dead
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523. IKE 01:04 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting CounterClockWise:
Good Rainy Mornin all!!! I know I'm getting flagged for this....but I can't resist...Does anyone see the irony of McCain/Palin ads on a website called "The Weather Underground"?? Ok back to the rain in "sunny" South Florida.


One has nothing to with the other....different entities....

As far as McCain/Palin.....2 1/2 more days and no more ads.....
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524. IKE 01:06 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting 954FtLCane:
thank god the election is almost over.....bang bang bang...moose dead


Thank God.

What will network news(CNN,MSNBC and FOX noise), talk about then...

(1)Why did so and so lose?
(2)2012.


After 2 weeks...mid-Nov.....

(1)Back to the economy.
(2)Sales down/Xmas shopping.
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525. Cotillion 01:07 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting IKE:


Thank God.

What will network news(CNN,MSNBC and FOX noise), talk about then...

(1)Why did so and so lose?
(2)2012.


After 2 weeks...mid-Nov.....

(1)Back to the economy.
(2)Sales down/Xmas shopping.


Thanksgiving not important this year? :P
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526. IKE 01:09 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Thanksgiving not important this year? :P

To my stomach it is...lol.

Not news though....oops....forgot Thanksgiving/Macy's day parade.....
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527. CounterClockWise 01:11 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting IKE:


One has nothing to with the other....different entities....

As far as McCain/Palin.....2 1/2 more days and no more ads.....


I realize that Ike....but I'm glad you got the point.
528. 954FtLCane 01:12 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
OMG.. this country will be different for 4 years...scared but looking forward to it
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529. Cotillion 01:16 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting 954FtLCane:
OMG.. this country will be different for 4 years...scared but looking forward to it


Though, no matter how much change Obama or McCain advocates, those who suffered at the hands of Ike et al have gone under more change than either could ever create.

Though, whichever candidate is elected, let's hope it's a positive step.
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530. RobDaHood 01:43 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Morning everyone,

Can't be healthy to be up this early on Sunday!

Can clearly see the ULL near PCola now on WVLoop.

NWS Ruskin has an interesting discussion this am concerning this feature.
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531. Orcasystems 01:43 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Complete Refresh Blog
Mirror Site

Present Satellite, Area of Interest Southern Caribbean
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532. Cotillion 01:45 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Morning Rob,

Think Pottery's going to find me before I busy myself?

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533. RobDaHood 01:46 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting Cotillion:
Morning Rob,

Think Pottery's going to find me before I busy myself?



Know he's been looking...shouldn't thrash you too bad though.
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534. Patrap 01:47 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
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535. Orcasystems 01:48 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting RobDaHood:


Know he's been looking...shouldn't thrash you too bad though.


Sounds like I missed all the fun again ....
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536. RobDaHood 01:52 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Sounds like I missed all the fun again ....
Cricket match...Britts got trounced, Pottery gloating, cotillion in hiding.
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537. Cotillion 01:52 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Sounds like I missed all the fun again ....


Heh, we're talking sports at least. ;)
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538. sporteguy03 01:54 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting IKE:


Thank God.

What will network news(CNN,MSNBC and FOX noise), talk about then...

(1)Why did so and so lose?
(2)2012.


After 2 weeks...mid-Nov.....

(1)Back to the economy.
(2)Sales down/Xmas shopping.



Ike,
Have you ever thought of being an i reporter for CNN?
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539. sporteguy03 01:55 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting CounterClockWise:
Good Rainy Mornin all!!! I know I'm getting flagged for this....but I can't resist...Does anyone see the irony of McCain/Palin ads on a website called "The Weather Underground"?? Ok back to the rain in "sunny" South Florida.


I would never flag a message like that.
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541. beell 01:59 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Sunday Funny Pages...

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SHREVEPORT LA
359 AM CST SUN NOV 2 2008

.DISCUSSION...
UNAUTHORIZED SHOWERS HAVE DEVELOPED THIS MORNING ACROSS NE TX/SE OK...AND
ARE POISED TO DRIFT E INTO EXTREME SW AR IN THE NEXT HR OR SO.
ORIGINALLY THOUGHT THE CURRENT 88-D ECHOES WERE AP...BUT A CHECK
UPSTAIRS WITHIN THESE ECHOES VERIFY...AND OK MESONET STATIONS IN MT
HERMAN HAS MEASURED...WITH TRACE AMOUNTS RECORDED THUS FAR IN BROKEN
BOW. NOT QUITE SURE HOW THESE SHOWERS ARE FORMING...
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542. RobDaHood 02:05 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
541. beell

That's too funny! Yes, went and checked, it's real.
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543. Cotillion 02:07 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Not too bad for us off the synaptic charts. A bit of an ugly low out in the North Atlantic, but it's tracking towards Iceland, so no biggie for us.

Wouldn't mind visiting there someday. Sounds a nice place.
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544. Cotillion 02:09 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Oooh, and isn't it nice when you find a site with new weather toys?
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545. RobDaHood 02:12 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
Quoting Cotillion:

...Wouldn't mind visiting there someday. Sounds a nice place.


Me too, lots of Scandinavian blood in my veins. would have to be summer though...
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547. RobDaHood 02:21 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
546. keywestbrat

LOL - it is a sign of wisdom, knowing when to keep one's mouth shut!

How are things in the keys this AM
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549. stormpetrol 02:26 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
I think the SW caribbean might in process of starting to develop some mischief.
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550. RobDaHood 02:28 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
548. keywestbrat

Good to know, the ULL in the NE gulf will be setting up a more swesterly flow so we'll probably be seeing some cloudyness and increased chances of showers/tstorms before it lifts out. Jury is still out on the speed/strength of next weekends front but you should be good for a few days of "sockless" weather!
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551. RobDaHood 02:32 PM GMT on November 02, 2008    
549. stormpetrol

some of the models certainly think so...hard to say what comes of it though, although almost certainly more rain for folks who don't need it. That alone is mischief enough.
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